The Swipe Journey – Can love be found on Tinder?

Tinder is a popular dating app used by millions of people worldwide. How do students in Oulu view the app? Have they found love?

What do you think about Tinder? Do you approach it as a dating facilitator or just as a convenient place to get to know new people? You may like, dislike or just be indifferent to it, but one or more of your friends might contribute to the over one billion swipes the app processes daily. Yep, a billion.

The nature of Tinder is simple. With only a picture and some basic info, you can create a profile. Then, based on your location you will see other users’ profiles and decide if you want to interact with them (swipe right) or not (swipe left). If two users like each other a match and the talk begins.

To know more about the experiences related to this app, we invited people to respond to a survey regarding Tinder. The thirteen responses from Master’s and Ph.D. students depict how the platform is perceived, used and sometimes avoided. Of course, their names have been changed to preserve their anonymity. You know, what happens on Tinder, stays on Tinder.

Opening Tinder

For its developers, Tinder is a social networking app for meeting people. However most users will mention that the main functions of Tinder are finding dates and sexual partners. 

The latter was the case for most of our interviewees before joining the app. At that point, the meaning of “I am on Tinder” to them meant “being single”, “looking around” or just “looking for sex”. 

This tension between points of view seems to be also in academia. Some researchers attribute the rise of apps like Tinder to their diffusion of casual sex. Others, however support that Tinder is more often used for entertainment purposes, locating casual sex being among the least common uses of Tinder.

In that regard, many of our interviewees mentioned using the app to get entertained. That was the case for Malena, post-doc student at the university.

“It used to be something I was doing to kill the time, almost the same as a game on the phone. But I also happened to check the profiles with some friends, a couple of times, just to laugh together.” 

For Beatrice, from Italy, it also began as a game, but later it became something else. “I started using the app just for fun. Me and my friends looked at profiles of people and judged them. That is how I met my actual boyfriend there.” 

Instead of entertainment, others found boredom on Tinder. At least that is Ramon’s perception.

“When people tell me they are on Tinder, I understand they are in the upcycle of loneliness and want to meet people… until they get tired of Tinder always being the same and get bored of it.”

What drives people to Tinder?

According to a study conducted in the Netherlands, people’s motivations to use Tinder can be classified in six categories. Beside the common ones (casual sex and love), the study also mentioned using Tinder to receive positive feedback about one’s appearance, thrill of excitement, ease of communication in online environments, and trendiness. 

When reviewing the motivations of our interviewees to start using the app, we found some similarities. For example, some were looking for a relationship (love), while others were exploring an interest in the same gender, or trying dating again after a break-up (sex / love). Others were curious due to friends’ suggestions to use the app (trendiness). Some started using it to develop flirtation skills or to overcome solitude (ease of communication).

In the case of Julieta, a Master student from Brazil, her response included not one but many of these categories. 

“Flirting in real life wasn’t really working, and I was much shier that I am now. So, it was an interesting way to flirt, have conversations and meet new guys. Also, everybody was already using it, so if I wasn’t there, I would be out of the system.”

A tainted reputation

If there is a wide variety of reasons to join the app, why is Tinder viewed as a hook-up platform? Beatrice offers an explanation after using the app for 5 years. 

“Because many people use Tinder just to find sex, people have a negative opinion of it. But I think that if used in the right way, it  can be a good tool to get to know, interact with and meet new people.”

Many of our interviewees seemed to feel the same way, because of the interesting people they met using the app. For instance Ramón, a Master student from Spain, had a surprising and unexpected encounter thanks to Tinder. He was in India when he matched with a model. 

“I ended up spending my last 3 days in Delhi with her. She took me to the most posh parties and afterwards slept in the slums of Delhi. We would have dated if I lived there, but we still talk.” 

Similarly, when asked about her craziest experience using Tinder, Adele, French exchange student, remembers her first encounter with a stranger. 

“I took the bus to his city, one hour away from mine, and he was supposed to take me back. I was there to meet him after almost one month of chatting. But I did not know him. I had no idea who I might run into. What if something did not go well? Luckily, he drove me home as planned. We kept seeing each other, and now he has been my boyfriend for almost 18 months.”

Despite the good experiences, there are also cases where users, especially women, suffered bad experiences. Angélica and Lyyti had negative experiences in their real-life encounters. After meeting a neighbor through Tinder, Angélica found out that he had a wife and a newborn child he had not told her about.

Lyyti faced a violent situation with a guy when she met him for the first time. “He tried to strangle me, I guess in a sexy, fun way? I did not find it sexy or fun. I never met him again.”

Gendered experiences

Even though many users considered no differences in the practices of men and women while using the app, it was intriguing that many female interviewees expressed they use  different strategies to avoid uncomfortable situations.

For example, identifying potential unwanted profiles (“there are weirdos everywhere, you need to learn how to identify them – and you gain experience with time – and how to avoid them”), elaborating a profile according to your interests (“I wrote a long description because I consider it important, especially when you are looking for something in particular. In my case avoid people who are only looking for one-night stands”), and have a protocol for the first dates (“to meet someone that doesn’t belong in your social network could be dangerous, so it is always an adventure. That’s why you should meet in a public place, never in your own house, or the other person’s house”).

None of the interviewed men mentioned any event related to violence or risk. Maybe the platform just replicates the behaviors of the offline world? Our interviewees mentioned behaviours associated with traditional gender roles. Some examples were passive-active roles (“women tend to be pickier because they are “chased”, and men have to do the chasing”), abusive behavior (“there was too much showing-off and pressure”), and plain machismo (“being a girl on Tinder is a lot worse than being a guy. Girls are quickly insulted and reduced to macho comments”).

According to Yan Asadchy, researcher of online dating culture, although some traditional roles are replicated within these platforms, there is an increasing demand in power for women. For example in India, the female audience is commonly facing straight-up and intolerable harassment, Asadchy says.

This motivated Tinder to implement a “My Move” feature that allows women to choose only they can start conversations after a match. This decision is highly coherent with the design of Bumble, the application that empowers women by putting them in a position where they can decide if they want to write their match or not.

On the contrary to heterosexual users, Fernando and Raija found that gay users may find the use of Tinder easier. For example, Raija found a more relaxed space to develop her curiosity. “I got interested in the same gender and found it very easy to use to Tinder: otherwise there’s a heteronormativity in society. We need to ask people who they’re interested in.”

Similarly, Fernando considered that “there might be roles that heterosexual users have using the app: who approaches whom first, who asks whom out first, and so on. This mirrors heteronormative social roles of men and women. Queer users, on the other hand, tend to disregard these roles.”

The core of Tinder

In an article of 2013, the columnist A. David claimed that Tinder does something “no previous app or dating site ever has before: it makes everyone feel okay about hooking up with near-strangers.”

Even though many interviewees met their long-term partners on Tinder, for Yan Asadchy the design of the Tinder’s interface might drive you away from achieving this goal. “Maybe they really want to find a long-term romantic relationship, but the design of Tinder invites you to behave in a different way.”

In a study about the swipe logic of Tinder, the authors defend that the almost exclusively image-based interactions, the scarce information, the binary response (like or not like), and the awareness of depending on the others according to your location, creates a tension between desire and anxiety.

One swipe after another, the selection can become addictive. In that cycle individuals are diluted, they become a part of the mass. Or as Lyyti says: “the massive ‘selection’ of people that Tinder brings to your fingertips might make other people seem more disposable.”

Dating always causes tension. While both agree to spend some time together, no one knows exactly what the other is expecting. So, the tension between expectations and possibilities of differences are constant. However, on Tinder that complexity is reduced to a simple swipe, a match and a few lines, before making potential contact. Maybe that explains some of our interviewee’s criticism of Tinder.

For instance, for Ramon the app  creates a superficial image of people. He thinks that “overused conversations become meaningless and fail to portrait either of the participants as a person”. On the other hand there is Irma: “communicating through the app made it easier for me to be indifferent towards others and not really care what they thought about me.”

Despite criticism of scholars or users, Tinder is here to stay. The more than 50 million users of the app prove that. So, next time someone brings Tinder up in a conversation, assume nothing and listen. Maybe you will find as many interesting stories as I found while writing this article.

Pablo Santur

Learning specialist in thesis writing mode. Former TV scriptwriter. Foodie. Anime lover. Twitter: @pablodsantur

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The University of Oulu and corona: how to secure studies, what about student organizations Wappu?

The University of Oulu aims to move to online teaching and studies to stop the spread of coronavirus. The guidelines set by the university affect both studies and free time.

The University of Oulu has updated its guidelines regarding the COVID-19 virus on the 12th of March. Earlier the university informed students and staff that travelling should be limited and people returning from areas with corona should work from home. Yesterday the university released a statement underlining the importance of distance between people in order to stop corona from spreading at the university. In practise this means working remotely for both for students and teachers.

Behind the university’s decisions lie the cases of corona in university students in Oulu. 17 new cases were found in University of Oulu students on the 12th of March. The cases are connected to ski resorts in Austria. The students exposed to the diagnosed patients have been quarantined on the 13th of March.

Also affecting the university’s decision is that The Finnish government decided on measures against corona yesterday, on the 12th of March. The Government recommended that all gatherings of over 500 people be cancelled until the end of May. Travelling and organising other events should also be considered carefully.

As a result of the limitations, the university has for example moved this spring’s Doctoral Conferment Ceremony to Autumn 2020.

Teaching to happen online, laptops to teachers

The University of Oulu recommends increased remote work and says they will increase online teaching. People with flu-like symptoms can not participate in classes, exams or come to campuses.

The university’s Chief Information Officer Kari Keinänen says that the university is preparing to offer all teachers a laptop to guarantee education.

“We ordered 209 laptops: everything the supplier had in storage. We aim to secure computers for teachers if they were to need them to teach online”, Keinänen told the Student Magazine on the 13th of March.

The CIO says they estimate around 300 teachers might need a computer. If the new laptops will not be enough, the university’s laptop vendors will be employed for use in teaching.

“The laptop vendor computers are available for students to use and will continue to be as long as there are computers. They currently hold 140 laptops that are in circulation as usual.”

To guarantee smooth teaching, the university is arranging training for the teaching staff, Keinänen says.

“We are going to have webinars next week where we aim to train teachers to use online teaching tools. We are also reforming the IT support services so we can continue to help teachers as they work remotely.”

Students who don’t have their own computer for remote work have also been taken into account. The Vice Rector for Education Helka-Liisa Hentilä said on the 12th of march that teaching will be offered in a way that suits mobile devices. Students will receive more information and support regarding this.

The university library released a statement of friday the 13th of March saying the customer service will end at libraries starting on the 16th. Using the library spaces, loaning books and returning them will function like normal with the current automated services. The Pegasus library will be open on weekdays between 8 am and 5 pm. The library will be closed on saturdays starting tomorrow. The libraries of Kontinkangas campus and OUAS will continue to be open normally.

Studies at a normal pace

The University of Oulu aims to guarantee teaching so that nobody’s studies will be delayed because of the epidemic.

Kela released a statement on the 13th of March saying delays in studies caused by corona will be taken into account when deciding student benefits. Student allowance will be given even if the amount of completed studies slows down. More months for student allowance can also be granted.

The start of studies should also not be delayed due to the virus. The university stated that even though entrance exams are also an event of over 500 people, they would be organised so the amount will not reach the maximum capacity. The decision for how to organise the exams will be made together with other Finland’s universities. The first entrance exams are to be held in Oulu on the 23rd of April.

Exchanges cancelled

The policy for the University of Oulu is that all current exchange students of Oulu university are to return to Finland. This decision has been made due to the Finnish Institute for Health and Wellbeing (THL) stating that clear lines for where the epidemic is in effect can no longer be drawn and all travel is risky.

Upon returning from an exchange the University of Oulu will pay for all extra expenses caused by travelling back, if the expenses are not covered by travel insurance or grants. According to the university students can keep the grants they have received for the exchange, even though the exchange period has been interrupted.

The University of Oulu as well as the Oulu University of Applied Sciences (OUAS) recommend that exchanges planned for spring 2020 be cancelled and no students go out on exchanges.

Upon returning from an exchange students must study remotely for 14 days. Longer instructions for returning have been sent out to students through the SoleMove-website on the 12th of March.

Wappu and free time remotely?

The measures taken affect free time as well as studies. The Student Union of Oulu University OYY informed student organisations on the topic on the 13th of March. OYY recommends that organisations carefully consider organising events. In future events they should secure the option to participate remotely as well as ensure good hygiene. The OYY office will also be closed for the time being.

OYY advices student guilds to close their guild rooms and to hold their board meetings remotely. The reason for this is that virus infections spread effectively in small, closed off spaces.

Cancelling events of over 500 people also affects the traditional student event, wappu. The Technical students association of Oulu OTY gave a comment on this on the 12th of March.

“OTY is following the situation regarding corona. There is no reason to worry about Wappu, as it will happen either way. If needed it will be organised completely remotely through Twitch, Snapchat, Instagram and other social media. More info will follow in the near future, said Riikka Haataja.

The University Sports of Oulu OKKL has also stopped all of their activity for the time being starting Friday the 13th.

The University of Oulu released a statement regarding the new actions against corona on the 12th of March. The University will have a group of people meet every day to discuss future actions. Follow the latest info on the University’s website.

More information about corona can be found here. In case you get sick you can check out the information by the city of Oulu and Finnish Student Health Service.

Iida Putkonen

Oulun ylioppilaslehden entinen päätoimittaja. Tiedeviestinnän maisteri ja glögin ympärivuotinen kuluttaja. Etsii revontulia, riippumattoja ja juuri oikeita sanoja.

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Linnanmaa, the city center and student experience – what will happen to the campus?

Last Autumn the University of Oulu informed the media they would start an inquiry into the future of the Linnanmaa campus. It was brought up that the campus could be moved to the city center. According to the rector, building a new campus in the city center would be an investment in students, the environment as well as the city.

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The relocation of Linnanmaa campus caused a lot of buzz last autumn. In November the university started an inquiry into a real estate strategy project. The options are the following: renovating  the old buildings, a completely new property built in Linnanmaa or the relocation of the campus to the city center.

The reasons behind the inquiry are the aging campus and the high rent of the property that would rise even higher if the current campus was renovated.

The question is: would the university campus really move to city center? Yes, it would, says the head of the real estate strategy project, rector Jouko Niinimäki.

“There is more to it than the high rent,” Niinimäki starts.

According to the rector, the rent of the property is negotiable. However, there are other problems with the old campus.

“The life cycle of the property is coming to its end. The current campus has functioned well for almost 50 years but the aging means that renovations are needed. It’s either renovation, building a new campus or relocation.”

Why move?

Why then is relocating the best choice?

Niinimäki says that the decision concerns the future of the university and the future generations of students. The amount of students is dropping as age groups approaching university education are smaller. That means that there will be more competition between universities.

“The University of Oulu has to be even more attractive so we can get students from other growth centers as well. The new campus and new location would help the university become a nationwide topic in media”, says Niinimäki.

The relocation to the city center is more a question of reputation rather than property to the rector: it is a way to make the university more appealing. In his speech he repeats the words student experience.

“Nowadays more and more students want to live in the city center. If the university, their hobbies and living would be in the same area, the students would experience the university as more pleasant as well.

According to Niinimäki, it’s important to have easy access to the campus. The new location  is  planned to be near the railway station which would make it easier to commute to the campus when arriving from another city.

“Aalto university and all the other big universities are easy to travel to. A central location would attract more students from the north, south and east alike”, says Niinimäki.

Concerned with carbon

When making plans for the new campus, the environment and carbon emissions will also be considered.

“The Linnanmaa campus is old and the shape of it is flat. We have big glass walls, and the building is far from being energy efficient”, says Niinimäki.

By moving the university to the city center, the need for traveling by car would decrease. That would in turn decrease the carbon emissions of the university.

“The current public transport won’t be able to keep up with combined University of Applied Sciences UAS and University campus. I already get feedback from students about how the buses are too full. We can’t rely on people driving their own cars to campus if we seek carbon neutrality.”

Niinimäki sees transport as a crucial problem regarding student experience. He has read that in Helsinki only one third of the young people get a driver’s license. Niinimäki believes the future generations of students want to continue using public transport to commute to their studies.

A project for the ages

The inquiry into the campus properties is meant to be ready this spring. Niinimäki says that he intends to present the subject to the board of the university in April. The board will decide whether to renovate, rebuild or relocate.

If the board will support the relocation, there is still years before the move would eventually happen. The moving would happen one faculty at a time in the time frame of 2026–2040.

“Most of the current students would not see the new campus as students anymore by the time the relocation happens”, says Niinimäki.

Even though the new plans might feel daunting, Niinimäki is excited. He hopes that the students feel the same positivity.

“Whatever the decision will be, we are always thinking of the well-being of our students. This decision is being made for the benefit of students and their experience.”

The future campus

Even though plans regarding the new campus are still only in the hypothetical phases, ideas regarding the design have been thrown around. Being located near the railway station seems to be fairly set.

Niinimäki thinks having the university in the center of the city would also help bring new life into Oulu.

“Even though the vitality of the city isn’t really a part of university’s tasks, by relocating we could help bring some energy into the city center and make Oulu more appealing as a city.”

Niinimäki mentions the Myllypuro campus of Metropolia as an inspiration for the new property. The brand new Myllypuro campus was designed by Oulu-based architect Rainer Mahlamäki.

So far no official plans for the design of the new university have not been made. However, architect students in Oulu are designing a hypothetical new campus as a part of a course lead by Mahlamäki.

Niinimäki states that the coursework is purely playful, but who knows.

“The new campus would be an investment for the future. I would ask the students not to worry!” Niinimäki concludes

Iida Putkonen

Oulun ylioppilaslehden entinen päätoimittaja. Tiedeviestinnän maisteri ja glögin ympärivuotinen kuluttaja. Etsii revontulia, riippumattoja ja juuri oikeita sanoja.

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Hi, 5 ways to spice up your Christmas

Whether you celebrate Christmas, a different holiday, or not at all, the December holiday season is imminent. This is a great time to reflect on the year that has passed and to get together with your family and friends. However, as the times change, so do traditions. For many, the classical tree decorating and gift wrapping may not be as appealing as it used to be. As you look for new ways to celebrate, may you find inspiration in the following 5 ways to spice up your December holidays.

Ignore the holidays and just chill out

This may be the least exciting prospect from the list, but not any less important. If you have had a rough year, it is sometimes good to take advantage of the holidays to take care of yourself. Treat yourself to the foods you like the most, visit a spa, go for long walks, watch all those series you’ve been meaning to but hadn’t had the time. The important thing is to take it easy and do what feels right. After all, you’re doing it for you.  

Casserole gathering

If you are a foreigner and know foreigners that will be in Finland away from their families during the holidays, you can get together and make typical food of your countries. That way you not only combat the loneliness of the holidays in a foreign country, but also get to try new food. I myself have participated in these gatherings and I can wholly recommend them. It is exciting to have people from other cultures try some typical food from your own country and experience their reactions. It doesn’t have to be a three-course meal; a simple taste of home will suffice. When I joined such a gathering, I made simple quesadillas and a “hot” (mild) sauce and I received no complaints. It also doesn’t necessarily have to be typical food from your home, but just something that you like and want to share.

Photo booth 

Halloween is long gone, but that doesn’t mean you can’t dress up for the holidays. One addition to your gathering could be a makeshift “photo booth”, which is nothing more than a space where you and your friends can take fun pictures with each other to commemorate the occasion. You can make an activity out of making props or costumes with cardboard, colours, wooden sticks, and yarn. This will let your inner children shine. You can have a contest where the most creative props win some prizes. 

Whamageddon

This challenge has already become a tradition in student circles. The idea is that you have to survive until the midnight of 24th of December without hearing the ultimate Christmas classic Last Christmas by Wham!. Naturally, there is no formal verification of who has been Whammed. You will have to rely on the code of honor. If you want to up the ante, you can try to trick each other into clicking a Youtube video with the song, but I wouldn’t recommend putting your friendship to the test like this. 

Escape the holidays and go traveling

If celebrating the holidays is definitely not your thing and you want to escape the holiday cheer, you could travel to a country that doesn’t celebrate Christmas. You could for example have a shopping and skiing holiday in China, go hiking in Mongolia, or visit monuments in Egypt

 

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Marcelo Goldmann

A Doctor of Chemical Engineering from the University of Oulu. "Life is like a rubber duckie, you gotta keep it afloat to see its splendor." Instagram: @marcelogman

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Hi, 5 reasons why exercising is good for your student life

For many people, exercise is an intrinsic part of their lives. But if you are like the author, then you have found exercise to be little more than a chore at some point or another. While it is true that exercise takes time that could be used for other hobbies, there are many legitimately good reasons why exercising frequently is not only good for your long-term quality of life, but also for your student life. Hopefully these next 5 reasons will motivate you to go to the gym, go jogging, or do some sports.

It makes you feel good during the dark months

Kaamos or Polar Night is the period of darkness when the sun doesn’t rise above the horizon. In the very north of Finland, such as the city of Nuorgam, this occurs for about two months between December and January. As you go further south, this decreases to just 4 days in Sodankylä. In Oulu, you will not experience true kaamos, but you can expect daylight as short as 3 and a half hours around December. This can affect people’s minds negatively, increasing feelings of sadness or anxiety. One way to combat this is through exercise. It is known that exercise increases the release of “feel-good” chemicals in your body (such as endorphins), while at the same time decreases the release of stress chemicals (such as cortisol).

It improves your self-esteem

It is no secret that exercise can improve our outward appearance. However, looks aren’t everything. Although self-esteem has an undeniable visual component, the author believes that a more important component is our overall physical strength. No matter which exercise you choose, your strength and stamina will increase through repeated training. This progress will undoubtedly make you feel like you’re turning into a better version of yourself. It is important that you don’t compare yourself to others in this matter. We all progress at different rates, and sometimes the progress can be slow. But the progress is real and will improve your self-image, not only outwardly, but also inwardly. 

It may help you with your grades

Physical exercise may be benefiting more than just your body. Our brains and bodies are not isolated machines, they communicate with each other and relate to each other. Studies have shown that students that participated in fitness activities achieved higher grades that those who didn’t. This doesn’t mean that you can slack off on studying. However, exercise can reduce your stress and increase your focus, which will surely help you study better. Additionally, exercise can lead to better sleep. As a consequence your studying will be more effective, as good sleep is linked to better retention of information in your memory.

It promotes better social interactions

University is not only about studying. Making good and meaningful connections are a significant part of a healthy university life. Additionally, the networks you create become more valuable when you enter your professional life, as they can provide support and advice. One way to strengthen friendships and relationships is by participating in training or sports together. By training with a partner, not only will you be sources of motivation for each other, but also have the chance to bond. Research suggests that team sports can lead to better interactions by the social nature of the activity, while individual training can also improve sociability as a consequence of improved mental health.

It strengthens your immune system

Nobody likes being sick. In the best case scenario, it’s a week of pain and misery. In worse scenarios you end up staying home and missing out on lectures and social events. However, besides dressing warm and having good hygiene, exercise can help you fend off those pesky colds and flus. When you include moderate exercise in your regular routine, your immune system is stronger. Some other reasons may be the increase in body temperature which fights bacteria, the flushing out of bacteria from the lungs and airways, and the decrease in stress hormones. However, if you’re already fighting a cold, perhaps it’s better to first deal with that before starting or continuing your training routine.

 

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Marcelo Goldmann

A Doctor of Chemical Engineering from the University of Oulu. "Life is like a rubber duckie, you gotta keep it afloat to see its splendor." Instagram: @marcelogman

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“The difficulty comes when you get a crazy long word” – Even though it will take time, these students know that learning Finnish is possible

Whether you are a Finnish citizen yourself or just a student in the Nordic coldness, you are probably familiar with two of the most common reactions from foreigners: “Oh Finland, is the schooling system really so amazing?” and “Oh Finland, is the language really so difficult?” We discuss with lecturer Anne Koskela and three students from the University of Oulu, whether Finnish truly is as challenging as it is often portrayed.

TEKSTI Filip Polák

KUVAT Anni Hyypiö

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Amaya Garcia Márquez is currently in Oulu for an exchange period from Spain. She says she came to have a new Finnish experience. She has already lived in Finland for approximately 10 months altogether and holds a B2 language certificate. In 2015, in her last year of high school, she was offered a scholarship and asked to put in order countries she would like to go for an exchange to by preference. She listed Finland as her number one, leaving the second place to South Africa.

“It was a feeling of connection, even though I did not know much about Finland. I arrived on the 21st of August [in 2015] without speaking a single word and school started on the 23rd of August completely in Finnish.”

Offering a view from a different learning level, a student who has recently made the first step and started studying the language is Alexander Csepregi. He is from a geographically distant yet linguistically rather close Hungary and currently coaches basketball and studies at our university.

As he says, he is new to the country and to the language, currently being able to use simple phrases and introduce himself in Finnish. He mentions that Hungarians see Finns as their distant brothers living in the cold, yet he doesn’t consider the language similar sounding.

“A friend of mine from Hungary bought a house way up north and he has met some Sami people and heard them speak. He told me he felt like he was listening to Hungarian, except he could not understand, which was apparently a strange experience. On the other hand, he agreed with me that Finnish doesn’t sound like Hungarian to us at all.”

Waldo Seppä offers yet another distinct perspective on the topic of Finnish learning. Introducing himself as “German speaking South African with a Finnish father” might suggest why that is. Waldo Seppä mentions that his level of fluency truly depends on the period of his life we are discussing about, since his life in Finland and moving in and out of the country

“In South Africa I’m always the ‘Finn’, and in Finland I’m always the ‘South African’. My relationship with Finnish has always been up and down. Apparently, my dad even used to speak to me in Finnish when I was very young, yet I don’t remember this.”

For us to better understand what the Finnish language classroom looks like from the other side of the teacher’s table, we turned to university lecturer Anne Koskela for a few questions. She isn’t a new name to neither Finns nor students from abroad, since she teaches the Finnish language both as a native and as a second language.

After graduating from the University of Oulu, Anne Koskela gained her first experience with teaching Finnish as a second language to adult refugees. Afterwards, she taught foreigners in general, in a course preparing them for a professional life in Finland. Later, she found her way into teaching at the university as well and is still on that path.

Is Finnish really that difficult? Yes and no

“Of course, we, the Finnish teachers, don’t want to say Finnish is hard,” Anne Koskela says.

According to her, seeing Finnish as different rather than difficult is a better approach. The language is indeed not part of the Indo-European group, which is unusual for Europe. While she mentions that  learners from Hungary may have a slight advantage with understanding the language structures, the favor is still rather small and the speakers may still struggle in other aspects. Additionally, coming from a language differentiating short and long sounds may help as well.

However, where Anne Koskela sees the biggest advantage is having a learning experience.

“I think it is also a question of learning strategies and learning itself. If you already have experience with language learning and have studied other foreign languages before, it makes it easier to learn Finnish as well.”

“The difference between spoken and written language plays a big role in what makes it difficult.”

Alexander Csepregi confirms the previous ideas by mentioning that the Finnish language logic is not strange to him as a Hungarian, and he indeed finds the separate sounds similar, which he considers an advantage. Being an agglutinative language, also Hungarian is capable of building unusually long words via affixes. He mentions that occasionally he translates his Finnish materials to Hungarian rather than English, since it makes more sense.

However, with vocabulary his background brings him only a minimal advantage. Additionally, Alexander Csepregi finds another aspect of Finnish troublesome.

“The difference between spoken and written language plays a big role in what makes it difficult. Sometimes my colleagues, other basketball teachers, text each other, and not even Google translate recognizes the sentences they write.”

Similarly, Waldo Seppä looked at both sides of the coin of his learning process.

On one hand, he appreciates the straightforwardness of Finnish. He compares it to English and French, where a learner has to memorize the use of prepositions in various cases, while in Finnish one can quickly start logically building the words together. However, that also brings challenges.

“The difficulty comes when you get a crazy long word, and you are just… clueless. What is also hard is when you start getting into very complex grammar. But that part, the advanced grammar, is what makes Finnish so difficult, and people tend to focus on that.”

While he mentions that he doesn’t see this advanced grammar as crucial for getting fluent, he understandingly concludes that he can see why people would call Finnish a hard language.

 

According to Anne Koskela, it’s better to see Finnish as different rather than difficult
According to lecturer Anne Koskela, it’s better to see Finnish as different rather than difficult.

Courses as a platform to speak

Amaya Garcia Márquez surprises many people with her level of fluency after a short time in Finland, however, she can definitely remember and see the strenuous side of the language as well. She speaks English, French, Finnish, and Spanish and mentions that Finnish is very distant from the other three. Especially in the beginning she found the learning as demotivating.

“I had moments when I felt frustrated with myself for not being able to learn Finnish, and I thought I would never speak it. That was the hardest part, the mental side, the frustration,” she says.

Amaya Garcia Márquez points out she has learned most of what she currently knows by using the language. However, when her peers during her high school exchange year had Finnish classes, she had sessions with a Finnish teacher. Besides getting learning recommendations, she considers the biggest advantage being the fact that the teacher would never switch to English and continued talking to her in her target language. In time, she picked up more and more vocabulary that she started trying to put into sentences. She mentions that she never studied grammar per se, and therefore usually recognizes instinctively whether a sentence sounds correct or not.

That was the hardest part, the mental side, the frustration.”

On her road from a beginner to being mistaken for a person from Turku, Amaya Garcia Márquez was driven by her motivation.

“I wanted to learn. I wanted to belong to the place. All my friends would talk Finnish during lunch, and even though they talked to me in English, I wanted to have the feeling of understanding the world around me.”

Waldo Seppä, who has attended several Finnish courses in the past, currently attends the “Opettajaksi Suomeen” course at our university. However, what he considers the main advantage is the opportunity to speak and practice, since he often found himself gravitating towards the English speaking circles while in Finland.

“Courses really provide an opportunity, where you are really speaking Finnish, and you have a person that is always there to help you. Also, after my first two years in Finland, I found myself being professional at answering questions about where I am from and introducing myself. In a Finnish course you always get the chance to speak about different topics as well.”

“However, knowing friends that have learnt Finnish, I know it is possible and extremely fulfilling.”

Seppä is not the only one who sees the Finnish courses as a positive experience. Alexander Csepregi happily concludes he recently finished the “Survival Finnish” course offered at our university. He is currently taking “Beginner’s Finnish” and mentions it is mostly in official Finnish, and sometimes the puhekieli versions of words are mentioned. The spoken language is, in fact, what he considers the biggest learning challenge. What he appreciates about the courses is the foundations they offer him.

Alexander Csepregi says his plan is to keep taking courses until he fails a final exam from one of them. While he is currently not sure how far that will get him, being in first year of his English bachelor’s program in Oulu, he dreams of high goals.

“It would be incredible to learn it [Finnish] fluently. I have Finnish friends, and if I would just show up and speak it, their jaws would drop. I would love to impress them like that,” Alexander Csepregi says, and adds that “if you want to learn a language just to add it to your resume, pick a different one. However, knowing friends that have learnt Finnish, I know it is possible and extremely fulfilling.”

Anne Koskela has a unique insight into learning the language, as both native and foreign. She mentions that the two categories of learning are not completely different. In the beginning, the foreign learners obviously focus on snowballing vocabulary, with time they start to practice topics similar to the ones offered in the Finnish language courses for natives studying for their master’s programs.

“In the conversation course, there are speaking exercises in different situations, for example, in working life. In other courses, we also write academic writing with the students. Both of those we practice with Finnish students as well.”

With Finnish being depicted as a difficult language, hearing that the Finnish students practice similar things in the compulsory communication courses may be motivating for foreigners who are learning Finnish.

Getting over the fear

Waldo Seppä, being further down the road of cracking the code of the Finnish language, has an additional advice as well.

“I can not stress this enough: learn vocabulary. Start talking like a three-year-old. You think you sound stupid, but that is how you learn. The more words you know, the more you can follow the conversation around you, and if you don’t know a word, write it down. Finally, don’t be afraid to speak. You’re going to make mistakes a lot and you know that is okay,” he explains and gives an example: “if someone is trying to learn your native language, and they speak it to you, you don’t care if they sound odd. People need to get over the fear of making mistakes. A three-year-old often makes mistakes too, but they will learn the language faster because they don’t care. Just practice.”

“Just go ahead and try. Even though in some moments you will feel down because you don’t understand, and a single word has 6 different meanings, and you feel like you can never learn the language. But you do not need a complete proficiency to speak and understand. Just go for it, it is not impossible, and it connects you with the culture, and people here feel happy and proud when you speak the language,” Amaya Garcia Márquez says.

All interviewed students agree on the fact that getting to speak the language is a massive advantage of each course.

Anne Koskela also agrees with the point and encourages the students to not be afraid of mistakes, and to not be afraid of speaking to Finns. Additionally, she shares a message for the natives as well.

Similarly to getting to speak in the courses, the natives can help their peers improve their skills simply by speaking with them.

“It is important from our side, that we do not switch immediately to English when we see they are just learning. Sometimes we want to be polite and switch to English, and maybe even because we want to practice our English skills with foreigners. I understand it is easier to operate in English in some situations, but it could be a decision that you could talk together for 5 or 10 minutes during lunch break in Finnish.”

 

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Filip Polák

A Slovak from a tiny village near the Hungarian borders who studies in the Intercultural Teacher Education programme here in Oulu. He is working on improving his Finnish, hoping to one day obtain a C2 certificate. In his free time he likes to put his thoughts down on paper or screen.

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